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	<description>Which side of the leash do you want to be on?</description>
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		<title>By: Jim McGuigan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jim McGuigan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Feb 2007 05:54:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Two cops helped me.  The first cop said it wouldn't be long because only one person was in front of me. No one else was in the lobby.  The next cop, an hour and fifteen minutes later, took my statement for all of 5 minutes.  He was very professional.

I think I'm reading you correctly to say the title of this post was over-reaching.  I will give it some thought and consider changing the title.  Suggestions?

As for a good time to file a report, I was there at the best time.  That's what the desk guy said.

My intention was not to bash all cops.  It was more of a statement of fact that I got substandard service in my specific case and there was no reasonable reason for it.  Had a few cops have been more interested in the lone guy sitting in the lobby and less interested in debating the benefits of pizza over burgers for takeout, I would have not complained.

As for sensitivity training, you're over-reaching on that one.  All I wanted was at least the minimum level of customer service that I could have expected in the private sector.  Instead, I sat and waited.  My feelings weren't hurt and I'm not a tenderfoot.

There's no reason I or anyone should have to deal with substandard service.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Two cops helped me.  The first cop said it wouldn&#8217;t be long because only one person was in front of me. No one else was in the lobby.  The next cop, an hour and fifteen minutes later, took my statement for all of 5 minutes.  He was very professional.</p>
<p>I think I&#8217;m reading you correctly to say the title of this post was over-reaching.  I will give it some thought and consider changing the title.  Suggestions?</p>
<p>As for a good time to file a report, I was there at the best time.  That&#8217;s what the desk guy said.</p>
<p>My intention was not to bash all cops.  It was more of a statement of fact that I got substandard service in my specific case and there was no reasonable reason for it.  Had a few cops have been more interested in the lone guy sitting in the lobby and less interested in debating the benefits of pizza over burgers for takeout, I would have not complained.</p>
<p>As for sensitivity training, you&#8217;re over-reaching on that one.  All I wanted was at least the minimum level of customer service that I could have expected in the private sector.  Instead, I sat and waited.  My feelings weren&#8217;t hurt and I&#8217;m not a tenderfoot.</p>
<p>There&#8217;s no reason I or anyone should have to deal with substandard service.</p>
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		<title>By: Watchdog Reader</title>
		<link>http://watchdogmilwaukee.com/blog/jim/2007/milwaukee-department-of-neighborhood-services-and-police-get-failing-grades/#comment-7714</link>
		<dc:creator>Watchdog Reader</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Feb 2007 20:54:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jim:

First, I did not mean exhausted from their shift -- I meant their job. They are underpaid and overworked and they have rotating schedules.

And, come on, how many people/cops helped you? 2? You gave the entire department a poor grade for the poor service of a few (in this case). Not entirely fair or effective.

Now, by no means, with this argument, am I implying these departments are efficient. Or, that the owners of the dog  were appropriately apologetic or cooperative. It sucks you got bit and received typically crappy treatment and service, but I feel this as a blog entry was reaching and overblown. 

I get crap service EVERYWHERE - I expect it. That's why it's of UTMOST importance in my own businesses that my customers are taken care of .. it makes us stand out ahead of the crowd ...

But to expect perfect caring service of law enforcement? They don't know you or what the other side of the story is .. they are trained to assess situations and react in crisis. You were not having a crisis in their opinion. 

Did you call to find out what a good time would be to go in and file a report? Did you call animal control? Did you seek medical attention first (don't recall)?

And, I just think you are on a slippery slope when you start bashing cops for being somewhat apathetic. I have a hell of a lot of respect for anyone who'd take on that career and depend on them to protect me.

Most likely they KNEW the statistics .. and, perhaps they could have shared that with you. But, maybe they didn't have the appropriate amount of sensitivity training? 

... Just sayin' ...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jim:</p>
<p>First, I did not mean exhausted from their shift &#8212; I meant their job. They are underpaid and overworked and they have rotating schedules.</p>
<p>And, come on, how many people/cops helped you? 2? You gave the entire department a poor grade for the poor service of a few (in this case). Not entirely fair or effective.</p>
<p>Now, by no means, with this argument, am I implying these departments are efficient. Or, that the owners of the dog  were appropriately apologetic or cooperative. It sucks you got bit and received typically crappy treatment and service, but I feel this as a blog entry was reaching and overblown. </p>
<p>I get crap service EVERYWHERE - I expect it. That&#8217;s why it&#8217;s of UTMOST importance in my own businesses that my customers are taken care of .. it makes us stand out ahead of the crowd &#8230;</p>
<p>But to expect perfect caring service of law enforcement? They don&#8217;t know you or what the other side of the story is .. they are trained to assess situations and react in crisis. You were not having a crisis in their opinion. </p>
<p>Did you call to find out what a good time would be to go in and file a report? Did you call animal control? Did you seek medical attention first (don&#8217;t recall)?</p>
<p>And, I just think you are on a slippery slope when you start bashing cops for being somewhat apathetic. I have a hell of a lot of respect for anyone who&#8217;d take on that career and depend on them to protect me.</p>
<p>Most likely they KNEW the statistics .. and, perhaps they could have shared that with you. But, maybe they didn&#8217;t have the appropriate amount of sensitivity training? </p>
<p>&#8230; Just sayin&#8217; &#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Jim McGuigan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jim McGuigan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Feb 2007 14:36:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I can't agree that public service jobs are cozy because I don't think most of them are.  But I will agree that the service element does not exist in some of them.  

The cops that I had the poor service experience with were just starting their shift so I'm not going to excuse that as exhaustion or anything like that.  There wasn't an excuse other than to say that they deal with the dregs of society on a daily basis and are probably at a point where they're just fed up and tired of it.  The idea of taking one more call on certain days, and we've all had them, could feel almost unbearable.  The problem is that we've all had those days and that is the job they signed up for so they cannot be excused for the hour and 15 minute wait when no one else was waiting to be seen.

Both departments need to understand that when someone calls them it is because they're experiencing stress because of a concern for their safety and/or health.  Those times are the most important to be responsive.

On the plus side, I will say that the cop who was finally assigned to take my statement was very professional and did a very good and efficient job.

In the end, I was satisfied with the DNS Inspector who was very courteous and informative.  Because of him, I will not be getting the shots as there is a 99.9% chance the dog is not rabid.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I can&#8217;t agree that public service jobs are cozy because I don&#8217;t think most of them are.  But I will agree that the service element does not exist in some of them.  </p>
<p>The cops that I had the poor service experience with were just starting their shift so I&#8217;m not going to excuse that as exhaustion or anything like that.  There wasn&#8217;t an excuse other than to say that they deal with the dregs of society on a daily basis and are probably at a point where they&#8217;re just fed up and tired of it.  The idea of taking one more call on certain days, and we&#8217;ve all had them, could feel almost unbearable.  The problem is that we&#8217;ve all had those days and that is the job they signed up for so they cannot be excused for the hour and 15 minute wait when no one else was waiting to be seen.</p>
<p>Both departments need to understand that when someone calls them it is because they&#8217;re experiencing stress because of a concern for their safety and/or health.  Those times are the most important to be responsive.</p>
<p>On the plus side, I will say that the cop who was finally assigned to take my statement was very professional and did a very good and efficient job.</p>
<p>In the end, I was satisfied with the DNS Inspector who was very courteous and informative.  Because of him, I will not be getting the shots as there is a 99.9% chance the dog is not rabid.</p>
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		<title>By: Watchdog Reader</title>
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		<dc:creator>Watchdog Reader</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Feb 2007 08:26:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This issue in this entry was a stupid little dog with a loose screw - the rest was really just a scoop of vanilla.

It's is all too convenient - incompetence EVERYWHERE in every department of every company &#38; organization. ESPECIALLY easy to see in cozy &#38; public government jobs ... 

MAYBE in a COP'S shoes; it's just exhaustion - from the decay of social order and not being ABLE to help when they want to (due to bureaucratic BS) and then apathy, boredom and numbness (as a coping mech.)??? They are reminded everyday when they repeatedly cannot "fix" anything at all: we are all just cogs, bricks, or numbers and etc .. even them. Give 'em a break they are human. 

And though; I slept A LOT in church (warm &#38; cozy),  scored terrible on that quiz with all those freaky names and would never look there for the answer: I think there may be a 12% chance something's being conveniently overlooked in this case ...


Big Picture: What can you do to make sure no one goes through what you have (lack of procedure and information)? Write something (with phone numbers and links and procedure - so those that follow can demand services and not walk around gathering the same info you did), post something or print and distribute something?? Will you? Are these the "mysterious ways" and we always miss them?? 

Unity, like Bill Stocks keeps writing, does make more sense when we are just talking about all of us little people. 

Just a thought.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This issue in this entry was a stupid little dog with a loose screw - the rest was really just a scoop of vanilla.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s is all too convenient - incompetence EVERYWHERE in every department of every company &amp; organization. ESPECIALLY easy to see in cozy &amp; public government jobs &#8230; </p>
<p>MAYBE in a COP&#8217;S shoes; it&#8217;s just exhaustion - from the decay of social order and not being ABLE to help when they want to (due to bureaucratic BS) and then apathy, boredom and numbness (as a coping mech.)??? They are reminded everyday when they repeatedly cannot &#8220;fix&#8221; anything at all: we are all just cogs, bricks, or numbers and etc .. even them. Give &#8216;em a break they are human. </p>
<p>And though; I slept A LOT in church (warm &amp; cozy),  scored terrible on that quiz with all those freaky names and would never look there for the answer: I think there may be a 12% chance something&#8217;s being conveniently overlooked in this case &#8230;</p>
<p>Big Picture: What can you do to make sure no one goes through what you have (lack of procedure and information)? Write something (with phone numbers and links and procedure - so those that follow can demand services and not walk around gathering the same info you did), post something or print and distribute something?? Will you? Are these the &#8220;mysterious ways&#8221; and we always miss them?? </p>
<p>Unity, like Bill Stocks keeps writing, does make more sense when we are just talking about all of us little people. </p>
<p>Just a thought.</p>
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		<title>By: Cream City</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cream City</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Jan 2007 05:42:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am so sorry -- and thanks for putting my complaints about DNS, the police, and others in city government in perspective.  My neighbors and I have tried, repeatedly, to get attention from DNS, the police, and others to problems such as rising crime, robberies, burglaries, etc.  But at least nobody here has been endangered as much as you.  Yet.

But your experience with incompetence, one time, is exactly the sort of experience many of us have had, repeatedly.

The main reason, we are told, is that our relatively prosperous (and so property-taxed to the max for these services) is not as bad as others.  Yet.

And yet . . . we talk with others in neighborhoods with higher crime rates, and they don't get any better response than we do.

It's.  Just.  Incompetence.  Period.

I could tell you stories and stories and stories illustrating the incompetence at all levels, but -- again, we've only suffered loss of property and a lot of fear . . . but nothing like the fear you have had.  

So, again, I am so sorry that those of us who already were fully aware of the incompetence of the DNS, the MPS, and others in the city have not figured out how to fix them in time for you to get the services you needed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am so sorry &#8212; and thanks for putting my complaints about DNS, the police, and others in city government in perspective.  My neighbors and I have tried, repeatedly, to get attention from DNS, the police, and others to problems such as rising crime, robberies, burglaries, etc.  But at least nobody here has been endangered as much as you.  Yet.</p>
<p>But your experience with incompetence, one time, is exactly the sort of experience many of us have had, repeatedly.</p>
<p>The main reason, we are told, is that our relatively prosperous (and so property-taxed to the max for these services) is not as bad as others.  Yet.</p>
<p>And yet . . . we talk with others in neighborhoods with higher crime rates, and they don&#8217;t get any better response than we do.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s.  Just.  Incompetence.  Period.</p>
<p>I could tell you stories and stories and stories illustrating the incompetence at all levels, but &#8212; again, we&#8217;ve only suffered loss of property and a lot of fear . . . but nothing like the fear you have had.  </p>
<p>So, again, I am so sorry that those of us who already were fully aware of the incompetence of the DNS, the MPS, and others in the city have not figured out how to fix them in time for you to get the services you needed.</p>
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		<title>By: Phil Manwich</title>
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		<dc:creator>Phil Manwich</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Jan 2007 18:08:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree that you deserve better service from City Hall but you needn't be quite so concerned about receiving the battery of rabies shots, if you need to get them. The vaccine has changed a lot over the years. Decades ago, the vaccine was derived from mammals and it was served up in huge hypodermic syringes inserted into the abdomen. These days the vaccine is derived from eggs and is no more painful than a tetanus shot. You may feel a bit groggy after one or two of them, but probably not. My wife and I received the rabies shots after a rabid bat was found in our home and we didn't know how long it had been there. Unlike other city departments apparently, the health department was very proactive and said bats can bite while humans are sleeping, which I found unlikely. Luckily, the rabies shots weren't that big a deal and now we're protected against rabid dogs for at least a couple years.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree that you deserve better service from City Hall but you needn&#8217;t be quite so concerned about receiving the battery of rabies shots, if you need to get them. The vaccine has changed a lot over the years. Decades ago, the vaccine was derived from mammals and it was served up in huge hypodermic syringes inserted into the abdomen. These days the vaccine is derived from eggs and is no more painful than a tetanus shot. You may feel a bit groggy after one or two of them, but probably not. My wife and I received the rabies shots after a rabid bat was found in our home and we didn&#8217;t know how long it had been there. Unlike other city departments apparently, the health department was very proactive and said bats can bite while humans are sleeping, which I found unlikely. Luckily, the rabies shots weren&#8217;t that big a deal and now we&#8217;re protected against rabid dogs for at least a couple years.</p>
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		<title>By: Jim McGuigan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jim McGuigan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Jan 2007 03:37:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I finally heard that the dog has been quarantined so that's a plus.  Also, someone from the Dept of Neighborhood Services told the owner of the company I work for that in the 30 years she has been with the city, she has never known for there to be a rabid dog which is another plus.

The doctor I saw volunteered to give me the first shot and get me started on the series if I wanted it.  I declined for now.  I hope to get more information from DNS soon.  As of yet, they still haven't called me back.  Interesting though how they would volunteer the information to the owner of the company I work for but no one had the courtesy to return my calls.

Rabies vaccinations for dogs are as follows:  The first one is given and is supposed to be good for one year.  Subsequent vaccinations are to be given once every three years.  This dog had it's one year shot but never had another one.  Interestingly enough, it bit through my pants but it doesn't appear to have ripped it.  Younger dogs have sharper teeth so that's the only way I can explain it.  All I know is it looks like a nasty bite and he broke the skin in about 5 places near the wound.

That being said, there's no excuse for this poor service.  I would have the same complaints had it happened anywhere else.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I finally heard that the dog has been quarantined so that&#8217;s a plus.  Also, someone from the Dept of Neighborhood Services told the owner of the company I work for that in the 30 years she has been with the city, she has never known for there to be a rabid dog which is another plus.</p>
<p>The doctor I saw volunteered to give me the first shot and get me started on the series if I wanted it.  I declined for now.  I hope to get more information from DNS soon.  As of yet, they still haven&#8217;t called me back.  Interesting though how they would volunteer the information to the owner of the company I work for but no one had the courtesy to return my calls.</p>
<p>Rabies vaccinations for dogs are as follows:  The first one is given and is supposed to be good for one year.  Subsequent vaccinations are to be given once every three years.  This dog had it&#8217;s one year shot but never had another one.  Interestingly enough, it bit through my pants but it doesn&#8217;t appear to have ripped it.  Younger dogs have sharper teeth so that&#8217;s the only way I can explain it.  All I know is it looks like a nasty bite and he broke the skin in about 5 places near the wound.</p>
<p>That being said, there&#8217;s no excuse for this poor service.  I would have the same complaints had it happened anywhere else.</p>
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		<title>By: Publius</title>
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		<dc:creator>Publius</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Jan 2007 02:59:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jim: I think that you can have the dog either quarantined, or better yet, have the head removed and the brain examined for evidence of rabies.  At any rate, I think that most public health officials will tell you that there's virtually no chance the dog was rabid, because we just don't see that happening in pets anymore, due to prevention efforts put in place by the very governments that last twit was lamenting, so the shot series is overkill, and I'd be surprised anybody is actually prescribing that.  If you were bitten by some feral animal, it might be different.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jim: I think that you can have the dog either quarantined, or better yet, have the head removed and the brain examined for evidence of rabies.  At any rate, I think that most public health officials will tell you that there&#8217;s virtually no chance the dog was rabid, because we just don&#8217;t see that happening in pets anymore, due to prevention efforts put in place by the very governments that last twit was lamenting, so the shot series is overkill, and I&#8217;d be surprised anybody is actually prescribing that.  If you were bitten by some feral animal, it might be different.</p>
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		<title>By: mkelover</title>
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		<dc:creator>mkelover</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Jan 2007 21:04:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ah yes, that is your lovely overly-bureaucratic local government at its finest. That is what you get for living in a quasi-socialist city! Enjoy!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ah yes, that is your lovely overly-bureaucratic local government at its finest. That is what you get for living in a quasi-socialist city! Enjoy!</p>
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		<title>By: Watchdog Reader</title>
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		<dc:creator>Watchdog Reader</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Jan 2007 19:42:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To my knowledge, Rabies vacs are actually good for 2 years - though they are administered every year (check that with a vet).  Or, you may find more help/info here: http://www.wyeth.com/animalhealth?rid=/wyeth_html/home/user_group_landing/for_ahp/fortdodge_overview.html

Also, call animal control &#38; the human society. ANY animal that bites MUST be quarantined for 10 days and tested, it's the law! 

WTF IS going on there is right..

Good Luck -- Yikes!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To my knowledge, Rabies vacs are actually good for 2 years - though they are administered every year (check that with a vet).  Or, you may find more help/info here: <a href="http://www.wyeth.com/animalhealth?rid=/wyeth_html/home/user_group_landing/for_ahp/fortdodge_overview.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.wyeth.com/animalhealth?rid=/wyeth_html/home/user_group_landing/for_ahp/fortdodge_overview.html</a></p>
<p>Also, call animal control &amp; the human society. ANY animal that bites MUST be quarantined for 10 days and tested, it&#8217;s the law! </p>
<p>WTF IS going on there is right..</p>
<p>Good Luck &#8212; Yikes!</p>
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