Comments on: A Deputy’s Plea for Leadership from Sheriff Clarke http://watchdogmilwaukee.com/jim/2008/a-deputies-plea-for-leadership-to-sheriff-clarke/ Your Progressive Source for Local Opinions and Insightful Commentary Thu, 08 Jan 2009 23:21:59 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6 By: exdeputyoutsider http://watchdogmilwaukee.com/jim/2008/a-deputies-plea-for-leadership-to-sheriff-clarke/#comment-8932 exdeputyoutsider Sat, 22 Mar 2008 22:30:16 +0000 http://watchdogmilwaukee.com/blog/jim/2008/a-deputies-plea-for-leadership-to-sheriff-clarke/#comment-8932 Good letter Good letter

]]> By: FedUp http://watchdogmilwaukee.com/jim/2008/a-deputies-plea-for-leadership-to-sheriff-clarke/#comment-8858 FedUp Sun, 17 Feb 2008 02:33:51 +0000 http://watchdogmilwaukee.com/blog/jim/2008/a-deputies-plea-for-leadership-to-sheriff-clarke/#comment-8858 Most deputies pray for him evey night, along with the majority of his command staff, but somehow they keep waking up and coming to work in the morning. Like the song says, "God must be busy." Most deputies pray for him evey night, along with the majority of his command staff, but somehow they keep waking up and coming to work in the morning. Like the song says, “God must be busy.”

]]> By: Zaun http://watchdogmilwaukee.com/jim/2008/a-deputies-plea-for-leadership-to-sheriff-clarke/#comment-8850 Zaun Sat, 16 Feb 2008 02:38:12 +0000 http://watchdogmilwaukee.com/blog/jim/2008/a-deputies-plea-for-leadership-to-sheriff-clarke/#comment-8850 To All Milwaukee County Sheriffs deputy's, Thank you for keeping us safe on the highways. Now like the military there is a command structure, that must be in place to prevent chaos. Some times the person on top is not as good as some of the people he leads. In the Military this is a problem you live with, but the Sheriffs position is an elected one. Therefore man-up and run against him. If you feel that is too hard to do, go directly to him and tell him how you think things should be done. If that is not possible for you to do, just be the best Deputy you can be and pray for him. To All Milwaukee County Sheriffs deputy’s, Thank you for keeping us safe on the highways. Now like the military there is a command structure, that must be in place to prevent chaos. Some times the person on top is not as good as some of the people he leads. In the Military this is a problem you live with, but the Sheriffs position is an elected one. Therefore man-up and run against him. If you feel that is too hard to do, go directly to him and tell him how you think things should be done. If that is not possible for you to do, just be the best Deputy you can be and pray for him.

]]> By: moover http://watchdogmilwaukee.com/jim/2008/a-deputies-plea-for-leadership-to-sheriff-clarke/#comment-8849 moover Fri, 15 Feb 2008 21:44:53 +0000 http://watchdogmilwaukee.com/blog/jim/2008/a-deputies-plea-for-leadership-to-sheriff-clarke/#comment-8849 Unfortunately the answer whatever it maybe is out there, but it won't work if it bounces off of death ears and blind eyes. Egos are terrible things, especially in a position like that, if you can't look at opinions and evaluate them for effectiveness you are not born to lead. No matter if you wear a ten gallon hat, stirrups, or dress as the Easter Bunny. Saying I was wrong can be the hardest thing for an adult, I have known many that would die before doing it. I live in Wisconsin but work in Illinois, you look at the shooting and wonder what brings a person to that point. It is stuff like this. People that are desperately trying to be heard and are being ignored. People that are different, people that just need a person to here. One of the hardest skills in life is to be a truly effective listener. So what has now happened. There have been some cops that have been unethical no doubt, messed up (well everybody is human, even cops), how many of us did something stupid on the road and it is either God or pure luck alone you are alive and the people around you are. So than you mix in a few people that have had an experience with a cop that messed up. So now these two sides hate each other and no one trusts anymore, now you mix that in with the thug element, poverity, no jobs, and people think they have justification for doing what they have to to survive. Well you know in your heart that is crap. How I have heard, well we don't get paid enough we deserve it, than the citizens say I'm just doing what I have to survive. When you are screwing people for money, or ripping them off your little soul kicks off and you know what you are doing wrong and you know it is wrong, we all just ignore that lil voice. You now mix in a leadership that calls people losers ect and makes them feel like a donkies ass and slowly chops away at that lil voice that keeps on trying to tell them what is right, slowly chops away at there self worth, what happens? Shootings happen, robbery happens, fraud happens, death happens. Wake up people, we get one chance, one chance only here. We are not cartoon characters that pop back up the next day. If we don't work as a community to help and support verbally and morally that we care for these officers we wont have them sooner not later, if leadership keeps going forward doing the same thing over and over, you might as well bang your head against a wall. If I stab myself with a knive it hurts and I bleed. Guess what, I don't do that because it doesn't work. Time to change government, for one reason only. Survival. You don't want to be the parent that gets the officer on there front door telling them there kid was gunned down. Are children learn from our actions, lets show them we can fix this and have strong communities that stand up to the bad elements. Unfortunately the answer whatever it maybe is out there, but it won’t work if it bounces off of death ears and blind eyes. Egos are terrible things, especially in a position like that, if you can’t look at opinions and evaluate them for effectiveness you are not born to lead. No matter if you wear a ten gallon hat, stirrups, or dress as the Easter Bunny. Saying I was wrong can be the hardest thing for an adult, I have known many that would die before doing it.

I live in Wisconsin but work in Illinois, you look at the shooting and wonder what brings a person to that point. It is stuff like this. People that are desperately trying to be heard and are being ignored. People that are different, people that just need a person to here. One of the hardest skills in life is to be a truly effective listener.

So what has now happened. There have been some cops that have been unethical no doubt, messed up (well everybody is human, even cops), how many of us did something stupid on the road and it is either God or pure luck alone you are alive and the people around you are. So than you mix in a few people that have had an experience with a cop that messed up. So now these two sides hate each other and no one trusts anymore, now you mix that in with the thug element, poverity, no jobs, and people think they have justification for doing what they have to to survive. Well you know in your heart that is crap. How I have heard, well we don’t get paid enough we deserve it, than the citizens say I’m just doing what I have to survive. When you are screwing people for money, or ripping them off your little soul kicks off and you know what you are doing wrong and you know it is wrong, we all just ignore that lil voice. You now mix in a leadership that calls people losers ect and makes them feel like a donkies ass and slowly chops away at that lil voice that keeps on trying to tell them what is right, slowly chops away at there self worth, what happens?

Shootings happen, robbery happens, fraud happens, death happens. Wake up people, we get one chance, one chance only here. We are not cartoon characters that pop back up the next day. If we don’t work as a community to help and support verbally and morally that we care for these officers we wont have them sooner not later, if leadership keeps going forward doing the same thing over and over, you might as well bang your head against a wall. If I stab myself with a knive it hurts and I bleed. Guess what, I don’t do that because it doesn’t work. Time to change government, for one reason only. Survival. You don’t want to be the parent that gets the officer on there front door telling them there kid was gunned down. Are children learn from our actions, lets show them we can fix this and have strong communities that stand up to the bad elements.

]]> By: Michael http://watchdogmilwaukee.com/jim/2008/a-deputies-plea-for-leadership-to-sheriff-clarke/#comment-8839 Michael Fri, 15 Feb 2008 15:59:46 +0000 http://watchdogmilwaukee.com/blog/jim/2008/a-deputies-plea-for-leadership-to-sheriff-clarke/#comment-8839 Clarkes Ego and Arrogance will not let him look at the main problem of the department, working conditions and doing the deputies jobs. Just the other day a deputy talked with me and the comment that stuck, " Even those that do their job and do it well and know what they are doing, just show up for work and do what they are supposed to do and nothing more because they may get canned for doing what they do." Now there is a big problem. The deputies in all bureaus are working under an Administration that takes away everything that a deputy does. There should be a discreation on how you handle your job, that is no more. The dputies that handled the Bosnian women at the airport offered her shelter, a place to go, even checked her story as to the tickets to Kansas, did they fail by not issueing a loiertring citation ? Whatever. The deputies do their job and in Clarkes eyes they are damned if they do and damed if they don't. It's up to Clarke and his Command staff to 'lead' and they fail on that. As I said the deputy's letter ws from the heart and thats what 90% of the department believes. If Clarke is a 'Cops Cop', like he says, the deputies will be able to do their job as law enforcement officers and would have a leader that takes them into the future with pride. My bet is that Clarke will take the Sheriff's Dept down to nothing but a jail operation. Clarkes Ego and Arrogance will not let him look at the main problem of the department, working conditions and doing the deputies jobs. Just the other day a deputy talked with me and the comment that stuck, ” Even those that do their job and do it well and know what they are doing, just show up for work and do what they are supposed to do and nothing more because they may get canned for doing what they do.” Now there is a big problem. The deputies in all bureaus are working under an Administration that takes away everything that a deputy does. There should be a discreation on how you handle your job, that is no more. The dputies that handled the Bosnian women at the airport offered her shelter, a place to go, even checked her story as to the tickets to Kansas, did they fail by not issueing a loiertring citation ? Whatever. The deputies do their job and in Clarkes eyes they are damned if they do and damed if they don’t. It’s up to Clarke and his Command staff to ‘lead’ and they fail on that. As I said the deputy’s letter ws from the heart and thats what 90% of the department believes. If Clarke is a ‘Cops Cop’, like he says, the deputies will be able to do their job as law enforcement officers and would have a leader that takes them into the future with pride. My bet is that Clarke will take the Sheriff’s Dept down to nothing but a jail operation.

]]> By: moover http://watchdogmilwaukee.com/jim/2008/a-deputies-plea-for-leadership-to-sheriff-clarke/#comment-8838 moover Thu, 14 Feb 2008 21:59:28 +0000 http://watchdogmilwaukee.com/blog/jim/2008/a-deputies-plea-for-leadership-to-sheriff-clarke/#comment-8838 I thought that letter was honest and from the heart(hopefully). This is someone who wants to be a true blue officer. I could only hope Sheriff Clarke would look at this and put the defenses down on both sides, if this does not happen we all suffer. It is unfortunate that other pay for officers that have given up and crossed over the line and that leadership treats all as the enemy. I thought that letter was honest and from the heart(hopefully). This is someone who wants to be a true blue officer. I could only hope Sheriff Clarke would look at this and put the defenses down on both sides, if this does not happen we all suffer. It is unfortunate that other pay for officers that have given up and crossed over the line and that leadership treats all as the enemy.

]]> By: Michael http://watchdogmilwaukee.com/jim/2008/a-deputies-plea-for-leadership-to-sheriff-clarke/#comment-8836 Michael Thu, 14 Feb 2008 15:31:16 +0000 http://watchdogmilwaukee.com/blog/jim/2008/a-deputies-plea-for-leadership-to-sheriff-clarke/#comment-8836 The best part the letter isn't critical of Clarke. It shows what I believe 90% of the deputies feel. I talk with the deputies dailey, and you can be assured that they only go to work and thats basically it. Everything that has been mentioned in the letter is felt by the deputies. The passion and the pride in their jobs has been sapped by Clarke and his command staff. They are damned if they do and damed if they don't. Lets look at the 'investigations' into the signatures. This may be a violation of their 4th Admendment Rights. Jim, you are right. If this deputy would sign his/her name to the letter he/she would be doomed under the 'Administration of Fear' But I do believe that this letter should be put out under other means. Clarke would have to do something if it would be put out there and his beloved public would take note. And I do believe that the public could realize what a phony Clarke really is. It's things like this letter that can do it. Remember Clarke depends on Democrat only votes and a few Republican cross overs. Him running as a Democrat is his ticket to the office and I believe that its a minority of the voters that actually vote for Clarke on merits. Run him as an Independant or Republican and he would loose. Enough of that I still think that there is a way to get the deputies letter out there. All it takes is some public offical to stand up to this guy and that would be it. Thats why it would have been a pleasure to see Clarke as mayor or police chief. He would actually have to answer to the public on a much broader scope than he does as sheriff. I'd be willing to bet he would falter on a much larger scale. Sheriff does not put him in that light. So unfortunately the 'Administration of Fear' will live on and Clarke will continue to deplete a once proud organization, the MCSD. The best part the letter isn’t critical of Clarke. It shows what I believe 90% of the deputies feel. I talk with the deputies dailey, and you can be assured that they only go to work and thats basically it. Everything that has been mentioned in the letter is felt by the deputies. The passion and the pride in their jobs has been sapped by Clarke and his command staff. They are damned if they do and damed if they don’t. Lets look at the ‘investigations’ into the signatures. This may be a violation of their 4th Admendment Rights. Jim, you are right. If this deputy would sign his/her name to the letter he/she would be doomed under the ‘Administration of Fear’ But I do believe that this letter should be put out under other means. Clarke would have to do something if it would be put out there and his beloved public would take note. And I do believe that the public could realize what a phony Clarke really is. It’s things like this letter that can do it. Remember Clarke depends on Democrat only votes and a few Republican cross overs. Him running as a Democrat is his ticket to the office and I believe that its a minority of the voters that actually vote for Clarke on merits. Run him as an Independant or Republican and he would loose. Enough of that I still think that there is a way to get the deputies letter out there. All it takes is some public offical to stand up to this guy and that would be it. Thats why it would have been a pleasure to see Clarke as mayor or police chief. He would actually have to answer to the public on a much broader scope than he does as sheriff. I’d be willing to bet he would falter on a much larger scale. Sheriff does not put him in that light. So unfortunately the ‘Administration of Fear’ will live on and Clarke will continue to deplete a once proud organization, the MCSD.

]]> By: Jim McGuigan http://watchdogmilwaukee.com/jim/2008/a-deputies-plea-for-leadership-to-sheriff-clarke/#comment-8833 Jim McGuigan Wed, 13 Feb 2008 22:49:19 +0000 http://watchdogmilwaukee.com/blog/jim/2008/a-deputies-plea-for-leadership-to-sheriff-clarke/#comment-8833 Deputies, The folks who are critical of the deputy for not submitting the letter directly to Clarke clearly haven't been following the way that Clarke treats his men. From the perspective of someone who has been following Clarke's career while Sheriff, it is clear that the author would have found himself disciplined had he not written the letter anonymously. Clarke will ignore it here just as he does when any criticism of him is put to him. Deputies,
The folks who are critical of the deputy for not submitting the letter directly to Clarke clearly haven’t been following the way that Clarke treats his men. From the perspective of someone who has been following Clarke’s career while Sheriff, it is clear that the author would have found himself disciplined had he not written the letter anonymously. Clarke will ignore it here just as he does when any criticism of him is put to him.

]]> By: Bill Stocks http://watchdogmilwaukee.com/jim/2008/a-deputies-plea-for-leadership-to-sheriff-clarke/#comment-8832 Bill Stocks Wed, 13 Feb 2008 20:37:09 +0000 http://watchdogmilwaukee.com/blog/jim/2008/a-deputies-plea-for-leadership-to-sheriff-clarke/#comment-8832 I agree with mkelover and Michael, that he should have gone directly to Clarke with this, and keep the blogs and other opinions out of it. Might actually accomplish something. I agree with mkelover and Michael, that he should have gone directly to Clarke with this, and keep the blogs and other opinions out of it. Might actually accomplish something.

]]> By: Dep Anony http://watchdogmilwaukee.com/jim/2008/a-deputies-plea-for-leadership-to-sheriff-clarke/#comment-8828 Dep Anony Wed, 13 Feb 2008 07:00:24 +0000 http://watchdogmilwaukee.com/blog/jim/2008/a-deputies-plea-for-leadership-to-sheriff-clarke/#comment-8828 Having been the victim of his misuse of power and position, I for one, would NEVER submit it with my name on it. Once in his sights, you are done. Having been the victim of his misuse of power and position, I for one, would NEVER submit it with my name on it. Once in his sights, you are done.

]]> By: Michael http://watchdogmilwaukee.com/jim/2008/a-deputies-plea-for-leadership-to-sheriff-clarke/#comment-8822 Michael Tue, 12 Feb 2008 02:40:20 +0000 http://watchdogmilwaukee.com/blog/jim/2008/a-deputies-plea-for-leadership-to-sheriff-clarke/#comment-8822 Of course that would be the thing to do, but get some backup with the other outlets. So when Clarke blows his cork, he'd still have to answer. Something he's never done. But God forbid if he signs it with an ineligible signature. Of course that would be the thing to do, but get some backup with the other outlets. So when Clarke blows his cork, he’d still have to answer. Something he’s never done. But God forbid if he signs it with an ineligible signature.

]]> By: mkelover http://watchdogmilwaukee.com/jim/2008/a-deputies-plea-for-leadership-to-sheriff-clarke/#comment-8821 mkelover Tue, 12 Feb 2008 02:13:24 +0000 http://watchdogmilwaukee.com/blog/jim/2008/a-deputies-plea-for-leadership-to-sheriff-clarke/#comment-8821 I think a deputy would get further by personally giving this to Clarke, man to man, instead of going through the union or some media outlet. If you go to the media/union, Clarke probably would be upset that you didn't come to him directly with this. Although I don't know the man I am guessing you'll get more flies with honey than vinegar. I think a deputy would get further by personally giving this to Clarke, man to man, instead of going through the union or some media outlet. If you go to the media/union, Clarke probably would be upset that you didn’t come to him directly with this. Although I don’t know the man I am guessing you’ll get more flies with honey than vinegar.

]]> By: FedUp http://watchdogmilwaukee.com/jim/2008/a-deputies-plea-for-leadership-to-sheriff-clarke/#comment-8819 FedUp Tue, 12 Feb 2008 00:48:05 +0000 http://watchdogmilwaukee.com/blog/jim/2008/a-deputies-plea-for-leadership-to-sheriff-clarke/#comment-8819 Any Deputy who submits this letter directly to Clarke with his name attached had better be prepared to walk a solo beat in the 'hood in sub-zero weather. Any Deputy who submits this letter directly to Clarke with his name attached had better be prepared to walk a solo beat in the ‘hood in sub-zero weather.

]]> By: Michael http://watchdogmilwaukee.com/jim/2008/a-deputies-plea-for-leadership-to-sheriff-clarke/#comment-8818 Michael Tue, 12 Feb 2008 00:10:56 +0000 http://watchdogmilwaukee.com/blog/jim/2008/a-deputies-plea-for-leadership-to-sheriff-clarke/#comment-8818 mkelover, I don't agree with you, but you are absolutely correct. This letter should go straight to the sheriff and other outlets. mkelover, I don’t agree with you, but you are absolutely correct. This letter should go straight to the sheriff and other outlets.

]]> By: mkelover http://watchdogmilwaukee.com/jim/2008/a-deputies-plea-for-leadership-to-sheriff-clarke/#comment-8817 mkelover Tue, 12 Feb 2008 00:07:11 +0000 http://watchdogmilwaukee.com/blog/jim/2008/a-deputies-plea-for-leadership-to-sheriff-clarke/#comment-8817 After re-reading what this deputy wrote, it's obvious that he is very passionate about his job and I admire that, I really do. BUT...if you're this passionate, why not submit this letter non-anonymously directly to Clarke with specifics so that he may act on them? Why submit an anonymous letter to a blogsite that you know Clarke doesn't read? What good does that do? Put your money where your mouth is and really make a concerted, passionate effort for good and meaningful change. After re-reading what this deputy wrote, it’s obvious that he is very passionate about his job and I admire that, I really do. BUT…if you’re this passionate, why not submit this letter non-anonymously directly to Clarke with specifics so that he may act on them? Why submit an anonymous letter to a blogsite that you know Clarke doesn’t read? What good does that do? Put your money where your mouth is and really make a concerted, passionate effort for good and meaningful change.

]]> By: mkelover http://watchdogmilwaukee.com/jim/2008/a-deputies-plea-for-leadership-to-sheriff-clarke/#comment-8816 mkelover Mon, 11 Feb 2008 23:44:33 +0000 http://watchdogmilwaukee.com/blog/jim/2008/a-deputies-plea-for-leadership-to-sheriff-clarke/#comment-8816 Welcome to the real world!! Welcome to the real world!!

]]> By: Michael http://watchdogmilwaukee.com/jim/2008/a-deputies-plea-for-leadership-to-sheriff-clarke/#comment-8814 Michael Mon, 11 Feb 2008 14:58:48 +0000 http://watchdogmilwaukee.com/blog/jim/2008/a-deputies-plea-for-leadership-to-sheriff-clarke/#comment-8814 Boy I sure hope this letter was sent to many others than just Watchdog. Lets see County Supervisors, Media, The Sheriff himself, everybody. This is too good to just waste on a blog. This letter nails it. Boy I sure hope this letter was sent to many others than just Watchdog. Lets see County Supervisors, Media, The Sheriff himself, everybody. This is too good to just waste on a blog. This letter nails it.

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