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 Comments on: Predator Fish, Zebra Mussels & Baitfish Explosion to Blame for Poor Fishing http://watchdogmilwaukee.com/jim/2009/preditor-fish-zebra-mussels-baitfish-explosion-to-blame-for-poor-fishing/ Your Progressive Source for Local Opinions and Insightful Commentary Wed, 09 Mar 2011 23:19:35 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Chris Yukna http://watchdogmilwaukee.com/jim/2009/preditor-fish-zebra-mussels-baitfish-explosion-to-blame-for-poor-fishing/#comment-9511 Chris Yukna Mon, 07 Dec 2009 13:45:54 +0000 http://watchdogmilwaukee.com/?p=1575#comment-9511 just a comment on "what happened on the Grand Banks" It may be crazy, but I really think that it was the again the zebra mussels that destroyed the downstream Saint Laurent fishin' I did write it up in "Canadian Fishing at the Grand Banks, Zebra Mussels, and Iron's Effect on Plankton". But I guess my title is not clear enough. I hope things improve for fishing on Wisconsin lakes. just a comment on “what happened on the Grand Banks”
It may be crazy, but I really think that it was the again the zebra mussels that destroyed the downstream Saint Laurent fishin’
I did write it up in “Canadian Fishing at the Grand Banks, Zebra Mussels, and Iron’s Effect on Plankton”.
But I guess my title is not clear enough.
I hope things improve for fishing on Wisconsin lakes.

]]> By: Nick Cipollone http://watchdogmilwaukee.com/jim/2009/preditor-fish-zebra-mussels-baitfish-explosion-to-blame-for-poor-fishing/#comment-9495 Nick Cipollone Wed, 25 Nov 2009 21:43:01 +0000 http://watchdogmilwaukee.com/?p=1575#comment-9495 Thanks for the story. There's been a lot of speculation as to why lake Michigan shore fishing was so poor this year, & this article offers some plausible reasons. It's always fun to blame Illinois, & perch fishermen were doing that a lot this year, not without cause: unlike WI, IL lets people fish perch during the spawn, & allows them a 15 fish bag, triple ours. Of course, poor IL gamefish resource management isn't responsible for poor perch weather, or quagga mussels, but still. Some things about the article I take issue with, tho: Musky hasn't historically been a major trophy draw in Wisconsin? Which planet does THAT Wisconsin exist in? Anyhow, most Musky fisherman practice catch & release with all but the most extreme trophy Muskies (taxidermy is expensive, I mean, beaucoup $), & Esox is a very tough fish that has a very high catch & release survival rate, so most caught Muskies aren't removed from the food chain. Numerous and undersized panfish populations can be a sign of a poor predator population in a lake; perhaps the DNR has been over-correcting. As for Lake Michigan Salmon re-production; there ain't none, never has been, never will be. The DNR stocks Brown & Steelhead trout, & Coho & Chinook Salmon. There may be some re-production of the stocked trout species, but not among the salmon. Salmon not only require upstream gravel beds to lay their eggs in, they also require extensive rivermouth estuaries for the smolt to grow in before they change to their open water phase. Local rivers offer little of the first, & none of the second. I shouldn't nitpick; you're main point about filter feeders keeping the baitfish populations down seems right. As for the cell-phone thesis, I wouldn't rule it out. Some friends of mine, who live on Wind Lake, STILL spit when the Milwaukee Journal sports page fishing report is mentioned. Some sportswriter, trolling the local gin mills for tips, got one from a local woman who couldn't keep her mouth shut. Next Sunday, nine words; "The Bluegills are biting in the Wind Lake bayou." It took the spawning beds five years to recover from that Sunday afternoon. So, re the cell phones, it wouldn't be the first time fishermen used mass communication & technological ingenuity to crash a fishery. Come to think of it, that's what happened on the Grand Banks, & a lot of other places. Suggestion for a future article- what would be the effect on the lake fishery if, as now seems likely, the Asian Carp break out of the Chicago River? And a tip: try the KO Wobbler- it's the only lure that caught me any salmon this year. Thanks for the story. There’s been a lot of speculation as to why lake Michigan shore fishing was so poor this year, & this article offers some plausible reasons. It’s always fun to blame Illinois, & perch fishermen were doing that a lot this year, not without cause: unlike WI, IL lets people fish perch during the spawn, & allows them a 15 fish bag, triple ours. Of course, poor IL gamefish resource management isn’t responsible for poor perch weather, or quagga mussels, but still.

Some things about the article I take issue with, tho: Musky hasn’t historically been a major trophy draw in Wisconsin? Which planet does THAT Wisconsin exist in? Anyhow, most Musky fisherman practice catch & release with all but the most extreme trophy Muskies (taxidermy is expensive, I mean, beaucoup $), & Esox is a very tough fish that has a very high catch & release survival rate, so most caught Muskies aren’t removed from the food chain. Numerous and undersized panfish populations can be a sign of a poor predator population in a lake; perhaps the DNR has been over-correcting.

As for Lake Michigan Salmon re-production; there ain’t none, never has been, never will be. The DNR stocks Brown & Steelhead trout, & Coho & Chinook Salmon. There may be some re-production of the stocked trout species, but not among the salmon. Salmon not only require upstream gravel beds to lay their eggs in, they also require extensive rivermouth estuaries for the smolt to grow in before they change to their open water phase. Local rivers offer little of the first, & none of the second. I shouldn’t nitpick; you’re main point about filter feeders keeping the baitfish populations down seems right.

As for the cell-phone thesis, I wouldn’t rule it out. Some friends of mine, who live on Wind Lake, STILL spit when the Milwaukee Journal sports page fishing report is mentioned. Some sportswriter, trolling the local gin mills for tips, got one from a local woman who couldn’t keep her mouth shut. Next Sunday, nine words; “The Bluegills are biting in the Wind Lake bayou.” It took the spawning beds five years to recover from that Sunday afternoon. So, re the cell phones, it wouldn’t be the first time fishermen used mass communication & technological ingenuity to crash a fishery. Come to think of it, that’s what happened on the Grand Banks, & a lot of other places.

Suggestion for a future article- what would be the effect on the lake fishery if, as now seems likely, the Asian Carp break out of the Chicago River?

And a tip: try the KO Wobbler- it’s the only lure that caught me any salmon this year.

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